Leave.

thanks for the great work you are doing. i wish you didn't have to deal with such boorish and dangerous behavior from the "anti-terror" camp. and here i thought we only had "red-necks" in the USA! forest activists in the USA have been kept up at night with loud music and bright lights, and have had trees logged around us, but usually the perpetrators are or are under the supervision of some law enforecement agency. i wish you safety and success

khaos cascadia

by god, but aren't they ridiculous

Doesn't surprise me that they'd stoop this low. Be sure to get more pics (and especially, short online movies) of this immature behavior - it's one thing to SAY they're doing this stuff and another thing to SHOW it.

Does the "Anti-Terror Info Camp" have a website of their own?

If they have a website, I haven't seen it. I certainly haven't bumped into their web editor in the forests, at least not knowingly!

Stay tuned - videos on the way .

Keep it up guys. Don't suppose Finnish TV / Newspapers are interested in this? I mean burning crosses, nooses, large vehicles charging round in the night - that's got to be good for selling a few papers?

Hey everybody up there. I can imagine how you feel in our little castle.Don't let them take your smiles.You are doing good work, so please do not give up. I miss you forest people and
woods(wo)men. so some hello to everybody,
Huck.

So, you think that`s funny???!! Those are just normal people who worried about their jobs!! SO GET REAL !

People here are always taken their income from the nature. We know how to live here without dangering the future of our kids.

So, no news here about Greenpeaces lorry what had a broken fuel tank. It spilled lot of diesel into side of the forestroad. IF you had followed the law, you should have informed the police and the firebrigade. BUT NO !! If someone is braking the law, it`s GP.

Get your facts straith.

Ike

Ike - there was no fuel spill - I've dealt with this elsewhere on the weblog:

'At Paadarskaidi, the outer part of one our truck tanks was dented - it didn't fracture, however, so nothing was spilled.'

It seems that a newspaper decided to report on the issue without verifying the story, never mind actually visiting (finding?) the site of the alleged 'spill'.

Ike - we don't think this is funny at all - we have a situation here where activists are receiving death threats, and masked men are prowling around in the dead of night. Dangerous machinery is being driven around and through the Forest Rescue Station site. This is 'normal' behaviour?

We have stated - many times - that we are not here to cause job losses - on the contrary, in fact. If people have concerns about jobs, they should be addressing those to Metsähallitus and the government. Greenpeace does not have the power cause job loss, any more than we have the power to provide them.

Hi !

so, Dave, you think you do not cause job losses ? I think I have disagree with you on this one. With all the "saving" you do around the world, now in Finland, you haven`t got anyone left unemployed ? What about those loggers, harvester and truckdrivers, sawmill workers etc. Without cut trees they do not have work = income. The dispute between reindeer herders and forestry workers can be resolvet here locally, WITHOUT YOU MESSING INTO IT.

In my belief people here in Lapland want to stay here. It is not possible without work. I understand your worry about wildlife, reindeer herders ( like you care... ) and about our nature, BUT we allready have so much of protected areas here. And those areas include forests also. Not only swamps, lakes, highground.

Seems funny to me that people from southern Finland, Holland, Germany, New Zealand, Italy are comig here and telling us that we doing things wrong. We here live all the time here, 12 months a year, 356 days a year. You only visit with your camp for a month. Soon as your publicity is used up, you`re gone. So, your "help" does only harm here. You stir up things, get the publicity and move on. Well, it´s your way of making livelihood for you.

Only a really small group of reindeer herders support you anyway. Most of the people in Inari, and in Finland, don`t support you and your agenda. Have you read the latest Lapin Kansa ? There was a article about you and popularity hee. Not so good for you... And before you say that Lapin Kansa is not paper you trust etc. Most of us here do.

This for now. Be gone and plese, pretty plese , stay gone.

Best regards, Ike

Ike - not very welcoming to visitors from afar!

If the problems here could have been resolved without 'outside' influence, then why did people here ask us for help? What about all the Greenpeace and forest activists living locally? We have the backing of the Sámi Parliament and the Saami Council, as well as the Inari reindeer herders.

Most of the Greenpeace people here are volunteers. They've taken time off from their jobs to spend time here. This is not about making of our livelyhoods - I think you have a rather strange idea of how international NGOs function.

With disputes like this wars get started, it is a human feature that makes things go on. Who knows what is the truth when everything is relative. One thing both of the sides have in common is stubborness and pride. Your fight only creates hatred and situations where local populations relationships suffer.

Spectator - I think it's a little strong to called it war! There has, however, been conflict here long before we arrived.

i understand that you are worried about nature and forests but i think it´s not fare to speak that ways in bublic..or you must tell that best woods came to Finland and Finland is just litle country and here many people have incomes from forest..because bad words affects all finnish industrial, becouse all people can´t understand everything in southern europa.. and they might think that all finnish wood industrial is bad thing..and finland have major incomes from wood industrial.. why you can´t just have normal discossion whit us? btw that area in lapland over 50% of forest are protected.. tell my how you see this??(sorry my english)

sorry for my late response Dave

"If the problems here could have been resolved without 'outside' influence, then why did people here ask us for help? What about all the Greenpeace and forest activists living locally? We have the backing of the Sámi Parliament and the Saami Council, as well as the Inari reindeer herders"

Not really true. Isn`t it? Far as I know a small droup of herders from Nellim wanted you here. Not all of the Inari herders. As for the local activists, how many there are really. One of two?? Sàmi Parliament and council are getting you mixed up to their own agenda about landowning here. Far as their agenda, they don`t have the documents to back up their demands. Most of the reindeer herding sámi families came here 1800- . Land ownership was allready decided by then.

and to the behavior of the loggers, they seem to go too far in some cases, BUT please remember they are now out of pay. Laid off for the time being. They get no pay from Metsähallitus. So, the talks about them getting money from Metsähallitus to buy booze is just offensive and hurtful. If someone wants to drink in his / hers freetime, I say go for it.

This hole thing has gone to " out to kill a fly eith a sledgehammer". It´s blown too big, compared what it really is.

So take care and try to be more accurate in your info next time. Your probaganda is just so plain "seetrough" now. Nobody with a normal sense believes it here now.

Ike

PS. Have peaceful spring , whereever you are. Things can be resolvet without you here. Visitors are welcome, but troublemakers are not...