brrrr - looks cold - go well up there!

Thank you for braving the elements to protect this ancient forest and support the Sami in protecting their traditional culture and livelihood. Your efforts will encourage others to take action.

Here in the U.S., we will demand that companies stop buying wood fiber derived from Metsähallitus's logging operations in areas mapped by the Inari reindeer herding co-operatives and Nellim sub-group.

Stay warm & strong.

Thanks for what you do; I hope, no Im sure that you can stop the destructive logging and save this beautifull and important forests !

EVERY FOREST IS A GIFT BY NATURE..WE SHOULD PROTECT IT AND NOT DESTROY IT..THANKS FOR BEING THERE AND PROTECTING..GO ON!!

your Green peace activists'endeavor in the horrible cold weather to moniter and deter logging
may be one of the most admirable protest for the preservation of Finish primeval forest envied from all of the world and safegurd of native's inhabitant right in Sami reindeer herding area.
I hope your trails could make Finish goverment and logging companies to be aware of the preciousness of virgin forests and reindeer livelihood. Take care more of your health.

It's just fine to see that even in Inari actions are taken to protect the beautiful environment of northern forest.
I do hope you built a sauna and I wish you will defeat those who don't respect the sami culture and inheritage.

G

Hi gang,
My name is Steve Wiggs and I have been working with GP for going on 16 years now. I have had the privlige to work on forest actions from British Columbia to North Carolina and two actions above the Artic Circle in Lappland in Sweden. (sorry never could spell Laapland right!)
To be up there is an honor, as you can see. The issues have been the same for years.
This year GP int. has chosen it to spotlight.
Make it no dought in your minds that you are on the cutting edge of enviromental activity.
For years we have said among our selves, it is a war going on in the woods.
If you find yourself in a situation cofronting loggers be cool. Talk allot but if they get agressive back way away.
The Sámi are a cool bunch of folk. Be carefull with there trust and do not let them down.
Enjoy where you are, do good work and stay warm.
Please feel free to drop me a line.

Love & Hugs, Steve Wiggs

Hi all,

This is Emma sending a big hello to all my finish brave friends. I miss you guys. My thoughts are with you all, I know what it is like... And to Pettan: I'm always proud.

Thank you for actions here in Lapland :(
Here is lot of people who don't wont you to be here. Your demandings are causing lot of employment. Many sami people work also in Metsähallitus. More than one thousand people have signed an address against Greenpeace actions in Inari.

Jarno, Ivalo

p.s. I have also reindeers.

Thank you so much for facing the harsh conditions of the north and standing up for what you believe in. As a Canadian living in Northern Manitoba, I know how very cold it can get! You are doing great things, thank you!

P.S.: Time to whip out the heavy artillery- Santa Clause!

Dear Campaigners,

have you had the opportunitty to sample the delicious souvas ( rein deer steak) and other traditional Sami delicacies?

Wish I was there instead of here sweating away on the other side.

Roger Melbourne Australia

I agree with Mandy who would like to harm Santa's reindeer?

I have written an opinion article about it see www.onlineopinion.com.au »

Regards,

From Roger a Laplander on the other side

it's strange how i never know what to say to good people. but i'm gonna try and say: KEEP IT GOING, U R DOING EARTH A FAVOUR!
stay warm 'n' strong ok? your action will deffinitely encourage others to do the same. thank you!
adriana (Romania)

Greenpeace go home ! Nobody want´s you here. There is more work to do in your own countries.

Jukka,

what would you propose that we should then do with our 16,000 Finnish supporters and 11 Finnish workers? Where should we go and what shall we do there? And what would you propose for Inari reindeer herders? Where should they move once their forests have been trashed by Metsähallitus logging? Yours, Matti Liimatainen

Let me start by saying that I have owned reindeers on the affected area, and that I see no reason for te actions that GP is taking. All that GP is causing is weakening a very fragile economy in Inari. Finland has probably the best maintained forests in the world, and the unlike what the GP tries to show Metsahallitus is not going to cut down the forest and leave open lands. As is true anytime in Finalnd when there are loggin activity the forrests will be maintained in good health, and loggin is done only to the extend that the forest can be grown back. Finland as whole has maintaided a balance in its loggin and will never allow any more forest to be cut down than what will be grown back at any given year. Aside from GP getting involved and messing everything up in the northern Finland there has been no change in terms of Sami people not being able to get a living of their traditional livelihood. The Sami people are the ones thriving in Inari. Rememebr that the reindeer are herded so they can be sloughtered and then the meat sold for profit. The people behind this campaign are doing it simply for financial benefit, and so they can be better off in expense of other economic areas.

So it is about high time for GP to get out of Inari as you are not welcome.

Hey!
How 're things goin'? I've arrived saturday in Amsterdam... and yes i miss the beautiffull forrest and all you guys already...
i just want to say: keep on goin' youre on the right way. The forrest and the sami needs all the help they can get!

greetzz

Martijn Nije

"TO REACH A MILLION, BEGINS WITH ONE"
Never ever EVER forget this!
Fiona- Melbourne Australia

Sigh, This time I have cause to disapprove what GP is doing here in Lapland. Yes, I live here and know the background better for that reason. There is nothing brave to come here and tell lies about how forestry is handled here. Forests are almost the only natural resources that we have. It would be foolish to mishandle them. Actually more than 20 % of forests are protected. And that is a plenty. Look at the map!

There is more reindeer here than people. Perhaps too many. Price of meat becomes too low and more reindeer are needed to sustain families. Forests cannot support that many. Its not an easy question. You shouldn't take side against other, but try to resolve the actual problem. The problem is that people cannot make their livelyhood. No job ---> no money. We cannot incease reindeers there has to be something else.

This what you do now just increases unemployment and misery. I would say that we here live more in harmony with nature than almost any other people in whole Europe! I'm angry that you come here to say that we don't.

Looking forward to come and help in two weeks, keep up the good work! Martijn en Jetske: leuk jullie weblog!!! Kan ik me fijn mee voorbereiden :-)

Marielle

Hi Olli, Ulvar, Jarmo and others! Good work. Im following the work on www and on sami TV news that are broadcast in whole Norway. There have been at least 3 stories there. Check this out: www.sosvillmark.no, remember to see the movie with sound, and youll get a good laugh! Yours Rein Midteng, Norway

Hi Jarno and all Finns that are against this Greenpeace action,

I'm Ann from Sweden and I have just read an article in the Finnish newspaper HUFVUDSTADSBLADET regarding the Greenpeace action in Upper Lapland.

This paper is not in the least negative about the GP action! Actually the paper seems to support GP and they also point out how important reindeer herding is to Samis.

Without reindeer herding Sami culture and language will die out.

Check the article here:

http://www.hbl.fi/cgi-bin/mediaweb?Newsp=hbl&Date=050302&Depa=inrikes&Story=07434634.txt&Model=juttu.html

Hi! very interesting blog. I wonder if you considered producing audio, podcasts. I have been producing the blog for the environmental program on Air America, EcoTalk and maybe Betsy could air an interview or something?
You could also have some audio on the blog (I am a fan of webradio, if possible in different languages (including French if you have French speakers): the more languages the more potential impact. At this point I don't have time for a translation but maybe some French speaking GP members could do that?
Other possibility: skype.
Keep up your good work.
Ph
www.blogvert.org

Keep strong and keep on!

"Without reindeer herding Sami culture and language will die out."

That's the biggest lie I've heard for a while. Greenpeace propaganda seems to be dangerous.

Greetings,
an indigenous sámi person.

What kind of cloud castles you Greenpeace people are living in! First I find very offending that you use the Sámi in your distorted worldwide propaganda, like you had the support of a whole nation behind you.

It usually has been easy to get sympathy for fighting against "the big evil companies". But it doesn't seem like the majority of local people or even the Sámi people support you now at all.

Actually they are making a petition that already 3000 people (including me of course) have signed, demanding you to leave Lapland.
http://www.inari.fi/ajankoht/tiedote.htm

Ordinary people seem already so angry, that they will probably burn your Forest Station down soon.

Greetings,
an indigenous Sámi
(thankfully I live a little more to the north from there. no fir-trees, no terrible forest war.)

"What would you propose that we should then do with our 16 000 Finnish supporters and 11 Finnish workers?"

Yes Matti, I understand that you have to make up out of nothing these kind of "enviroment crimes" so you can get more money and support for your outrageous organization.

Wasn't it in the late-90's when Greenpeace Finland (Suomen Greenpeace) was shut down because of lack of money and support in Finland? I'm not wondering why there wasn't enough support.
http://www.kaapeli.fi/hypermail/suomis-list/0083.html

To EinoKalevi:
If you are saying that reindeer herding isn´t important to Sami culture... Then you are lieying!!! Reindeer herding plays a BIG PART in Sami culture...
ofcourse there is much more to Sami culture than that but still!!!
Jalla bat don leat go it diede sami kultuvra birra MAITEGE!!!!!!!!!!!!
dalle ii galgga lohkat maitege jus ii diede maitege!!! amma nu???

Just to say that it's true that the locals are getting really pissed off with GP and your image is going down the sink here in Inari. Most of the locals feel that they can solve and handle these problems of their own by negociating and you people are just encouraging people taking sides and leading the local community into an unnecessary and unfortunate war. I know it's not your purpose but it's something that can't be avoided now that you're here. You guys should take responsibily of your actions and know better.
You're taking an advantage of the Sami people and spreading an untruthful picture of them all around the world. Most reindeer herders here also feel strongly against your actions and feel ashamed to be drawn into this dirt.
Please, leave. Please, understand. We will have to deal with these things long after you're gone "saving the world" somewhere else and
try to balance out these social ties in our community again.

"If you are saying that reindeer herding isn´t important to Sami culture... Then you are lieying!!!"

Now I didn't say so. But to say that Sámi culture and language would die without reindeer heirding, is clearly wrongful. Even if all the reindeers disappeared form the world just now, Sámi culture and language wouldn't die. Sámi culture overall is already not so much linked to reindeer heirding than it used to be.

Sámi people used to live in southern Finland, hunting, fishing and collecting, before reindeers came along. Also many Sámi in Norway, near Inarinjärvi, and rivers like Teno have traditionally practiced fishing. And even had cows before it was economically impossible.

Good luck
Portugal

Well Greenpeace, did you have fun with the loggers yesterday? :)

http://www.forest.fi/smyforest/foresteng.nsf/tiedotteetlookup/5F32B71886F93F58C2256FC70052F580

Ofcourse there is much much more to Sami culture than only reindeer herding... but most of the Sami people have reindeers of their own...
and you can't say that language wouldn't die at least partly!!! there are so many Sami words connected to reindeer herding that would surely disappear if reindeer herding did no longer exist!!!
clearly EinoKalevi you are not a Sami!!! tending reindeer in southern parts of reindeer herding area in Finland is different than tending them according to the sami style!!! and that is a part of culture!
Like in norway and sweden you have to be a sami to herd and own reindeers..
you clearly don´t understand that everything is linked together; if you take one part of sami culture out, the other parts will suffer ---> where to get materials for traditional arts and crafts if there were no reindeer?

How long you have to do something that it will become tradition?
If we look 100 years back in time, the sami culture and reindeer herding was quite different. I'm not against reindeer herding or sami culture, but sometimes you have to do something in new way.

Good question Jarno, it's a question I often wonder myself - even history, in the modern sense, is quite a new concept.

But if you look back 100 years, logging was quite different too - the concept of industry was relatively new, and there were no chainsaws or harvesters. Reindeer herding, in the sense of relatively tame reindeer, is several hundred yearss old.

Tradition is usually defined as the act of how elements of a culture are handed down through generations. This isn't to say that that all aspects, or the appearance, of these elements stays constant. Like everything, there is constant change. Even in Sámi prehistory, there was constant change. Since industrialisation in the 19th century, much of the world has changed.

Japan for instance, was a feudal nation until industrialisation arrived. Now it's a high-tech culture. The concept of a middle class didn't exist in Europe until industrialisation.

Since then, change has accelerated - and this has had influence on reindeer herding and Sámi.

I don't think any of us want to 'freeze' reindeer herding or Sámi culture in some kind of idyllic Disney timewarp, but rather recognise the integral aspects of a traditional way of life.

And then there's the forest itself...

I think it's very important to save the Sami culture and language, and the best way to save it seems to keep the reindeer herding culture alive for the new generations.

How many small cultures and languages haven't been lost in the tundra region?

All the world have a responsibility to keep the Sami culture alive!

Ann

The best way to keep reindeer herding alive is getting reindeer meat price much higher than what it is now. Even if all forests are protected there will be lot of sami people and other reindeer herders who will stop reindeer herding. Nowdays there are not so many people who live only reindeer herding. They have to do also other works to be alive. Some of them are loggin wood. Or someones get their money in the social service.

Hi Jarno,
I don't exactly understand your comment on reindeer meat... do you say it's too cheap?

In Sweden reindeer meat is expensive, it's a delicacy and MUCH more expensive than pork and beef...

Ann

Yes reindeer meat is also expensive also here in Finland, but what reindeer herder get of that is very little. Year by year big companys who buy reindeer meat pay less and less. But price in stores is always same, maybe even higher.

Problem is that big buyers know that every year they can get more meat than what they need. Every reindeer owner have to kill allmost every calves every year, because there are too much reindeers.

So, big buyers can say what they want to pay and nobody cannot do anything for that.

One thing what brings reindeer meat price also down is reindeer meat what have been brought from Russia.

Few years ago lot of finnish reindeer owners sold meat to Norway, but now it is impossible. Reason is that Norway want to protect their own reindeer meat price in their markets.

Way to go up there!
Say Hi to Blather, the little furry fella!

Dear Activists,

I hope you will have succes at talking to the local people that there are ways to save the remaining ancient forest and have employment for local people.
Today in the Hague dutch activists put a forest rescue station in front of the Finnish embassy. This action was shown on the dutch news. Qwe will look in the papaers tomorrow to see if the story will be reported.
International attention to what the Finnish government is allowing to happen in Finland should help with saving these forests.
Dutch volunteers are outside photocopying shops and are talking to paper producers to use paper without ancient forest in it.

I wish you much succes in the coming weeks up there, I read the weblogs with great interest and I hope to join you in the middle of april!

Liesbeth van Tongeren

Hello everybody,

Seems to me this discussion is leading away from the main issue here: the trees.
Nature needs about 200 to 300 years to grow a tree of 30 cm diameter up in Northern Finland, the more northern, the more years. Obviously the replanting programme that indeed does work in more southern regions of Finland, won't work here. Once those old and very old trees are gone, even our childrens children will not see their likes again.

To reindeer or not to reindeer is not the question. The question is: has mankind the right to destroy Mother Earths (other) children? Not only those trees, although each of the big ones is a nature reserve in itself. Also the wildlife other than reindeer that depends on those forests is at stake here.

All over the world ancient forests are disappearing rapidly, due to human economics. We're only beginning to see the results of this destruction. Polluted rivers, less fish, landslides, erosion... and then i'm not even mentioning the fact that forests and individual trees form a world wide network, they're all interrelated. (Like everything on this planet, but that is another discussion entirely ;-) )
The point is that by logging old trees in Finland, the whole earth suffers.

Mother Earth, who feeds, warms and clothes us all, deserves better than this!

My regards and true respect to both pro and contra GP's, but above all, my respect to those ages old trees themselves. May they thrive forever.

Is Greenpeace represented in the negotiations that are taking place in Ivalo at the moment? Are there any results from those negotiations?

Eino - yes we are represented. It's just three o'clock now, so it's still actually taking place.

Hi Petteri and all you other guys,

Keep ut the good work and make us proud. I envy you very much and hoped that I could join you.

Yours sincerely,

Claes Book (agricultural consultant, India)

Metsähallitus has reported the illegal forest station to the local police. Investigation will probably last long though. Do you have chains with you, so you can tie yourself to pine trees if things get hectic?

I wish a Happy Easter to everybody at Inari and I leave this message for my dear friend Carla Cioffi from Italy.

Ciao Carletta!
Ben arrivata al polo!
Altro che foto con il cellulare, spero ti sia portata una macchina fotografica vera!
Buona Pasqua e un caldo e sintaticamente pelo abbraccio dalla laugna!
Camilla

You know, I really don't know what to think anymore...on one side we have greenpeace supporters and on the other side the people that want them gone (understandable because of economic purposes). If this is a matter of protecting forest to be destroyed for the sake of getting raw material for companies like StoraEnso, than I totally support this cause! But if it is a case of taking care of the forest (Finland has probably the best maintained forests in the world) which are a problem for the reindeer and sami people, than I really don't understand what GP is doing there.
To me reindeer and Sami aren't even the issue...for me it's just that Forest should be maintained and protected for there is to little on this planet anyway! so which is it?

Eino - I doubt it will come to chaining ourselves to anything!

Don - I'm not sure I understand your point - but despite what may be reported in some parts of the media, we're here working with the Sami Reindeer herders, and other groups within the Sami community.

It's simple really - the reindeer herders want to preserve the forests - and so do we. The Sami right to their reindeer herding livelihood has been ignored for years. Until now.

Ciao Carla! Non ti invidio il clima ma certamente il coraggio! :)
Attendo i tuoi racconti e le foto.
Un abbraccio,

Francesca

Hi all - just a quick message. If you're going to post a list of questions or another complex message - please ensure that you post a working email address so that we can get in touch with you with regard to any questions, etc.

- Dave

The work you are doing is of such value...the traditions of indiginous people once lost is lost forever and we should be valuing their knowledge and wisdom, not stripping away their heritage. Great job!! Tanya

Thank you, for all that you're doing in Lapland. We must, as writer Aldo Leopold wrote, understand that nature is a community and not merely economic opportunities (waiting for the hand of man) to take.

What you're doing is as important as any, nay, more important than most human endeavors. If I knew how to join you, I would. Thank you and please, please, continue in your critical work.

just want to thank all of you. i appreciate what you are doing for this planet.

Greenpeace strongly exaggerates the meaning of forests to the reindeer heirding. Most problems of reindeer heirding are not because of logging. Most importantly, there have just been too many reindeers, and that's why there's not enough food on the ground. "Traditional" reindeer heirding is quite different what it used to be, and has already been for some time now.

Reindeer heirding has the same problems even there where is no logging at all!

Horsetail lichen is surely not the most important winter food for reindeer. Reindeers can dig through heavy snow to find food (picture). If there isn't lichen, reindeers can eat other growing things too.
http://www.veikkovasama.net/poro_kaivaa.htm

The amount of horsetail lichen in forests is exaggerated by Greenpeace. Reindeers can get only a small portion of it from the big trees. In many reindeer forests there even isn't so much lichen in the trees.

Reindeer heirding is dependent from forests, although not in the way Greenpeace would want. Vehicles, snow scooters and feeding the overcrowded reindeer population are expensive things to do, so reindeer heirders get extra money by _logging their own forests_, or they get profits from the loggings of collective forests.

For the reindeer heirders, offence is the best defense. They invent all kinds of excuses for their problems, when the real reason is modern reindeer heirding itself (ex. too many reindeers), and the free-market economy, where productivity is important and the competition is hard. Of course it's sad that reindeer heirding has problems, but I don't think these kind of Greenpeace's operations only against logging will help it in a long run. Because there are so many other reasons.

All information from Greenpeace seems to be carefully planned propaganda. Almost half of the forests in northern Lapland are already protected. Forests would need much more protection in the southern Finland, but in Inari Greenpeace can use Sámi people in its international propaganda very effectively, because in rest of Europe and the world no-one knows much about the real problems of reindeer heirding and what are the causes for the situation overall in Lapland. And of course in this war of propaganda and blackmailing, maybe Greenpeace can finally defeat it's long-time enemy, Metsähallitus.

I think this information I've heard is at least as truthful than Greenpeace's.

[Eino - we're going around in circles here - pretty much everything you talk about has already been addressed either here on the weblog or elswhere in Greenpeace literature. For instance, your comment on protected areas - I posted on that yesterday, in the comments of this blog entry. Please at least attempt to bring something original to the table, rather than just regurgitate the statements (or, if you like, propaganda) of those who oppose the protection of old-growth forests in upper Lapland. Ironically, you criticise us for 'using' the Sámi people "because in rest of Europe and the world no-one knows much about the real problems of reindeer heirding and what are the causes for the situation overall in Lapland (sic)". In fact, we're helping to provide the Sámi people with a means of putting their message out across Europe - for the very reasons you mention! - Dave]

when we are struggling against the unfair practices,particullarly included various involved groups, others may sometimes confuse to find the real points which is the best way for the best solution becuse each pits their arguments aginst the other's. Participating Greenpeace activists have faced not only severe cold weather but severer cold oppositions from short term's proponents. But we must remember an inalterable truth " whenever development promoters are planning to begin their projects,They have already finished lots of pink colored promises to make naive neighborhood people be convinced".
As their undergoing projects have changed to undesirable trends,neighbors begin thier protests.
That is the same case we have long experienced.
Beng a member of Greenpeace activists,I'll keenly look for the northern Lapland's case.

So, are you Greenpeace folks going to the INARIN POROKUNINKUUSAJOT this weekend? (Inari reindeer race... or something)

It is after all the most important sports event in the whole world! You have to see it.

Hello: Good job ¡¡¡¡

Yes, Eino, we'll be there - bring your friends along to say hello to us! Where are based anyway - Utsjoki, is it?

Dave & Friends -

Thanks for contacting my blog (www.finlandforthought.net) and posting the link to this site. I'm really happy to see that you're online and spreading this message this way because this Finnish government and Finnish media seem to be ignoring your efforts up north.

I've asked a few Finns about why Greenpeace is up in Inari, no one seems to know. Everyone heard that you were supposedly camping "illegally" but beyond that - no one has a clue as to what's going on.

Unfortunately you're up against Metsähallitus and the Finnish government. They do NOT want to get word out that Finland, the supposed most eco-friendly country in the world, is having a battle with Greenpeace. If you were battling ANY other logging company (that wasn't owned by the government), you'd have no problem fighting them - you'd probably have the government backing your efforts 100%. This issue should show everyone the need to get government out of the pockets of corporations, because when big corporations team up with big governments...there's no stopping them.

Good luck with your efforts up north!! Please keep us updated on your blog!

- Phil

This day, and every day, I am with you in spirit and heart...and commitment. As I am, in the U.S., state of Rhode Island (ex-Texas), I am contacting environmental groups about a national boycott against the importation of Canadian seafood and a boycott against travel to Canada until the seal slaughter is ended by the Canadian government. I am participating in its implementation. So, you are not alone in the challenges and fight against greed and the destruction of what we hold sacred and defendible. Thank you for your work, and please, know, you are not alone..not now and not ever.

"I'm really happy to see that you're online and spreading this message this way because this Finnish government and Finnish media seem to be ignoring your efforts up north."

Don't worry, internationally Greenpeace is superior with it's propaganda and has got media attention in many countries. Finnish government and forest companies are surely losing the media battle internationally. Almost everything the outside world knows about this situation, is from Greenpeace's information.

Finnish media is not very interested in general but in Lapland all media has been talking about this all the time.

"I've asked a few Finns about why Greenpeace is up in Inari, no one seems to know."

Even I don't know that, I just know what Greenpeace is saying they are there for!

Nail on the head there Eino - we have had quite an impact on the media internationally and nationally- that it, after all what we're good at. Call it propaganda if you will - that is your, I'm sure, a well considered and informed opinion on your behalf. But we'll have agree to disagree on your rather repetitious interpretation of our work here!

Hello Iam from the beautiful island of Puerto Rico and because we are part of the Mother Earth, the situation in Sami Reindeer Forest is important to us. We have some forest like El Yunque and Bosque(Forest)Seco de Guanica that I visit with by students and we never allow to our goverment to destroy our forest.
Thanks to Greenpeace for be part of the Mother Earth.

Blessed Be,
William

Thanks very much for what you do; I hope that you can stop the destructive logging and save this beautifull and important forests in north of finland
I would like help you !How can I help you?(It is possible I come to there for help if you need)

talk about good karma, you guys will have a boat load when your done, on behalf of mother earth, I thank each and everyone of you for taking a stance.

"Ironically, you criticise us for 'using' the Sámi people 'because in rest of Europe and the world no-one knows much about the real problems of reindeer heirding and what are the causes for the situation overall in Lapland (sic)'."

That's true, because now they're only hearing your opinions. I think only the local and national media is covering both sides. International aspect is however important, because you get much support internationally and pressure companies and they make decisions internationally.

"In fact, we're helping to provide the Sámi people with a means of putting their message out across Europe"

Sounds great, although I must admit I haven't really noticed you helping to put out my message across Europe yet. Well, except for not deleting my posts from this blog of course!

Forest.fi site says even 3 out of 5 reindeer heirders (which are not a majority in the Sámi people) object to Greenpeace, but I guess it's just the forest.fi "way of looking at things", as Dave would say.

Hi Eino and all,
I have just checked out the website that you mentioned. It looks like any other country's site on forestry. By this I mean that the forestry is priding themselves to be SOOO ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY,looking for everybodies welfare, be it the loggers, the Samis or the old forests and the endangered animals. Self-glorification( we are no bad guys!!!).

If your forestry is so perfect, can you please tell me why there is a need in Finland ( and in Sweden) to IMPORT illegally sourced timber from national parks in Estonia?

Stora Enso is involved in this dirty business too!

This report was released last year by WWF.

Eino, and all people in the Finnish Forest Association, please stop calling Greenpeace a Stalinistic or Nazi NGO, the real criminals can be found in the forest industry, be it in Finland, Sweden or Indonesia.

Ann