thanks for the easy money guys, and it's always gratifying to know you'll be spending some time in the slammer, while we're rolling around in our money :) I believe once you're gone, we'll be back to work. A question : where'd ya get the fuel for the trucks you drove in on?

Mon plus grand souhait c'est de ne jamais laisser une occasion de la défense de notre planète de côtè

Nous sommes les pélèrins
de COPENHAGUE !

CPE

hey woohootarsands:
What are your kids going to use for water and oxygen when they grow up? Are you going to be proud of how you helped destroy the environment that they will get stuck with. Enjoy your $$ while you still can. Changes are coming.

Shell’s main concern is the safety of everyone involved so we temporarily suspended operations. We are currently in the process of restarting.

While the activists continue to be respectful to our staff throughout the demonstration, our preference is for a negotiated end.

We have invited the group to sit down with us and discuss their concerns.

For more information, visit:
http://www.shell.ca/home/content/can-en/aboutshell/media_centre/news_and_media_releases/2009/sept15_shell_responds_activists.html

haha. thats funny if you guys think that you're going to even make a slight dent in all this. wasting your time. I'll come visit you guys in jail and laugh at ya. hahahaha. the oil sands show must go on, and it will when you're outta there. Biting off more than you can chew on this one.

Here Greenpeace sits barking at oil sands giants, saying that they all should be charged and fined etc, etc. But now here they are breaking into a private facility, breaking the law, and putting themselves and the lives of other at risk. All the ones involved in this childish show should be jailed and charged deeply.
There's places, religions, and all kinds of stuff that I dont agree with out there. But you dont see everyone else running a muck out there taking drastic actions against something they dont like, like the actions of you guys.
Hope you all go down hard for this. Then the show will go on and we'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

You do realize that the 747's your french buddies used to get over here burn 3600 gallons of fuel per hour and those haul trucks only use 60 gallons per hour....

Might what to consider how much fuel you used just to get here and protest the making of it...

I'm a little sick of people pointing out the hypocrisy of using fuel to travel to protest the mining of said fuel. If the work these people are doing has the impact that it should then sources of renewable, clean energies will be in place and I can guarantee you they will be the first people to gladly say goodbye to fossil fuels.

When you've no other alternative because of the monopoly that this industry has on the production of energy, what else do you do? Sit at home and write a letter? These activist's actions as far more powerful than my words, some simple minded people cannot seem to grasp this, however.

I think that what you are doing here is in the best of intentions, and I do hope that negotiations can be held peacefully and with respect to both parties. Thank you for trying to make the world a better place; I support Greenpeace wholeheartedly and am looking extremely forward to a world sans fossil fuels.

Unless you stay out here forever you're not going to stop operations for very long. Demand for oil isn't going to decrease. If obama for some reason was convinced by this show not to buy canadian oil there are plenty of other countries willing to buy it. China doesn't give a damn about what anybody thinks.

Even if the vehicles used by greenpeace have used oil, because they were designed to use it as fuel, the era of change has come. Why continue with black gold projects and commencing others, when other solutions to help the environment, and still keep vehicles moving without affecting anybody; any living creature, must be sought? Why are people so upset when someone is trying to save mother earth, creatures that cannot speak, the future of children, etc... Some of you have said things like "We are all going to die so I am going to buy a '66 Mustang as use it" or "I'll destroy the Amazon as long as I can get a nice resort" that is INSANE CONSUMERISM!! this is not about anti-capitalism, this is humanistic!!! as a human you must sit back and think about these things. If humans are already killing humans and people are fighting for such atrocities (like Darfur and hunger in Africa, the wars in the Middle East) then Mother Earth needs a group of people to do these things for her! call them trehuggers but you have no heart and that is sadder. Money is temporal, this planet is a miracle in the universe. A gift you are denying the future! think about it!

Good work guys! somebody has to make a stand for the planet, I admire you for what you done! dont listen to them oafs from Shell...hopefully they will realise their mistake before they die. STOP TAR SANDS & OIL INDUSTRY IN GENERAL!

why dont we get a list of everyone involved with greenpeace protests, break into their homes, keep them hostage and ruin their everyday lives. All is fair in the love of war, right?
If they dont get jail time for this, I'll protest that for sure. They're not above the law. They broke rules and trespassed, and put their lives and others in danger to protest a supply and demand commodity, which they consume themselves to power their vehilces, planes and boats to get where they need to go. Along with all the oil-based products they use such as plastics.

As far as I am concerned this should be considered terrorism!!I hope you all end up in jail for a LONG time!

Fort McMurray doesn't appreciate being used as a political springboard for your self-righteous agenda of environmental terrorism, Greenpeace. Your one-sided, selfish manipulation of the media is both cowardly and unfair. While you have every right to your own beliefs, forcing them upon others as you have is a distortion of everyone's democratic rights.

"...My eyes are burning but we are actively stopping this climate destruction.

Update from Mike - 13:00 local time"

Really, your eyes are burning? Then how do the thousands of people who work on these sites every day manage to stay for 10-20 days at a time without their 'eyes burning'?

If you really want to make a difference, fund research in alternative fuel resources to decrease the world's dependency on oil.

It's a good job someone is carrying out campaigns like this, because judging by most of the posts on here, the majority is happy to carry on as if nothing is happening until we all drown or suffocate or starve, whichever comes first. See how much you feel like slagging off these peole who are putting themselves at risk for you and your children whaen your supermarket shelves are empty or under water.

Félicitation à tous les activistes,de tenir si longtemps dans de tel condition. Votre conviction en la cause est inspirante. Nous sommes avec vous en pensée. Lâchez pas gang!

A big shout out to all the activist who have the courage and willpower to take these drastic measures and show the world what's going on in the dark corners of our planet. As long as we allow oil companies to deplete our earth in the search for fossil fuels, they will never have a commercial interest in developing alternative fuel sources.

Shell, wake up and smell the toxins!

For all those who want their negative comments posted, please be man or woman enough to post them under you own name.

Thank God for Greenpeace!!! I have been to Fort Mcmurray--It is an eye opener! I call it the Devil's Candy Bowl--You can have anything you want because of Money... but that comes at a price...and the rest of us will all pay if we do not stop it. Canada especially needs to be aware of what is happening up in Alberta--They are destroying our country and our envoirnment at a furious rate... I honestly believe that if the majority of Canadians knew what was happening there--Greenpeace would finally be understood for what they are doing there! Education is the key...Exposure is the key...It is horrendous there and I truly cried when I saw what was happening--Please do not give up Greenpeace...and for those of us that know what is happening there--tell your friends--expose this horrible destruction for what it is...and for those of you who want to remain ignorant about it all---Good luck in your futures--brag about how you got the money to pay for your toys and houses, you should be embarrassed that you were part of this--your greed got the better of you. And don't forget to take all your supplements while your up there and drink your bottled water.....I can only blame your ignorance on your love of money--nothing else.
Wake up and try to smell the fresh air while you still can....
Aida

Congratulations Greenpeace. You are heroes in the fight to protect our planet against pollution and environmental destruction. No quality of life is possible without a healthy environment. Human life cannot survive on this planet without a healthy environment. We must stop polluting and destroying this environment - our life support system. The tar sands and its dirty oil are making a major contribution to global environmental destruction and the demise of humanity through the huge quantities of global warming gases they pump up into the atmosphere. We need to stop this destruction now. Thank you Greenpeace for your courage and leadership!

you guys really need to wake up and get a life, I live here and it is a great community to live why don't you cover some good news of the area like all the RECLAIMED land, they dont just leave it like some places they take the time and make it like nothing was ever there but of course you guys dont want to show that what you are doing is dangerous and not productive, and if one of you gets hurt on site then you will try to sue or something even though it is your own doing, try getting a real job instead of chaining yourself to things, I hope you are enjoying the wonderful Fort McMurray Bugs!

According to the Finning Website there are approximately 1200 pieces of Caterpillar equipment working in the oilsands mines. These 25 or so folks have shut down 2 of them which appear to be moving overburden in a remote part of the pit. the minei is now operating steadily around them, they could be there for a while....

MIke, contrary to what you're posting, you have NOT shutdown their operation. Albian has more than 1 electric shovel operating in that mine. You may have stopped the operation of 1, for now, but the rest are still going.

At least you're smarter than Tooker Gromberg was 9 years ago and pulled this stunt before winter set in. I still remember those GP morons chaining themselves to the solid steel coker vessel on the side of the highway in -20 weather. "smart like stick"

Hopefully your jail term for trespassing won't be too long.

At the end of the day when you guys are in jail, the mine will still continue to run and this stupid stunt will be long forgoten about....

Green Peace are trying to do a good job. Instead of standing against what you hate, show us what you stand for. We all want to help solve the climate and environmental issues but need clear leadership, a vision. What is Green Peace's vision for the future?

To all the Greanpeace activists, as a Fort McMurray residant and an oilsands worker I respect your motivation and determination but disrespect your lack of respect for the law and the citizens of Fort McMurray.
The "peace" in greenpeace represents a peacefull demonstration, your actions have not been that. We have laws in this country for a reason and you are not exempt.
As you campaign for supports, please keep in mind the dignity and professionalism that you wish to have your group withhold and operate by.
Your disregard for the law and lack of awareness in the oilsands safety has gained you Zero supports today. The risks you have taken by entering into a open pit mine are huge. Lives are at risk everyday, and we hold all co-workers accountable for our own safety. You have lives at risk today by driving into a active work area. Little do you probally know, that the visibility of a duty vehicle from the view of a heavy hauler in little to none. I hope you were all aware that you could have easily been killed by your actions today.
The weight of your demonstration would have been just as strong if you were outside the gate and not tresspassed onto private property.
To gain supports, put your efforts into research to lesson the economys rely on the oilsands. You will make more of a statement!

Fantastic ... way to go guys.
Great job Greenpeace.
Let's get rid of this monstrous blight on our landscape.

No one has even brought up the good things the mines are doing. Like the reclaimed land!!!! Once they've sifted throught the soil, they return it and replant it. 100% back to nature!! Right now the reclaimed land is supporting natural forests and huge buffalo heards. A species that once roamed freely and almost became extict is now once again roaming and thriving on land that was once mined. Can you say that about where you live? Can you move the city and stop production and put it all back to nature? No, the citys are permanent, the plants are temporary and the land can be put back. Get the facts straight!! Is everyone at greenpeace willing to revert back to cave man days? Oil sands provide you with your cushy existence. So before taking an ILLEGAL stand, maybe you could use your time and resorces to create 100% clean fuels, and THEN get the industries involed. Until such a time...SHUT UP!!!!

CONGRATULATIONS GREENPEACE. You are heroes in the fight to protect our planet against pollution and environmental destruction. No quality of life is possible without a healthy environment. Human life cannot survive on this planet without healthy ecosystems to sustain it. We must stop polluting and destroying the natural environment - our home and life support system. The ALBERTA TAR SANDS and their dirty oil are playing a huge role in the destruction of the world’s environment through the huge quantities of global warming gases the TAR SANDS pump up into the atmosphere. We need to stop this destruction now. Thank you Greenpeace for your courage and leadership!

There is no real replacement for oil as a transportation fuel. Why doesn't greenpeace use the money they waste and on these protests and help advance the the technologies to end our reliance on oil. Buy electric vehicles instead of protesting oil sands developments. We can't all drive horse and buggy we still have to use oil to transport our goods and ourselves.

its pretty sad that you didn't post my post oh well

The negative future impact of tar sands extraction upon the planet far outweighs the temporary benefits it brings to this generation. Some are far sighted enough to protest and try to draw attention to this by putting their own lives on the line. They deserve our respect and support

Woohoo!!! way to go Greenpeace. Love it.We need to stop this dependency on oil; embrace clean energy. It's true, when Greenpeace leaves, the ignorant workers will return, continue they're dirty work, collect their big fat paycheck with total disregard to the destruction of the environment. And yet, Greenpeace's objective will be achieved: awareness, education and negotiation. Thank you, thank you Greenpeace... Don't ever stop doing what you've been doing. When you talk, people listen, then they learn, then they react.
With total respect...L

Why do you ask our name? Greenpeace didn't view us as individuals when they took Shell's business hostage to selfishly gain media exposure. They weren't there to talk, they were there for publicity. We provide the fuel you use to enrich your lives through travel, the energy you use to keep yourself warm in the winter, and we do this in as safe and environmentally responsible way as is feasible so they may be made affordable for all. I work in the Oilsands so that I am involved every day in ensuring the highest quality of environmental stewardship from the operation. Canada is a democracy and the majority have asked for oil - you are welcome to share your efforts in improving the process as I do, but please don't criticize us if you aren't willing to help.

Kudos to Greenpeace and all the brave activists doing this great service; thank you!
To be honest, I've found some of the posts on here rather disturbing. I don't think it's ok to get rich by doing something that kills other people, and I don't think any sensible person would. Yet the activity at the tar sands is killing people living downstream at Fort Chipewyan, not to mention those deaths it causes through its contributions to climate change. People do need jobs, but we can create even more (and better) jobs than the tar sands provides by reallocating tar sands investments to other areas of the economy.
As for those who are concerned about the alleged illegality of what Greenpeace is doing, let's all remember the Kingsnorth six (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/11/activists.kingsnorthclimatecamp). It is not a crime (or at least it should not be crime) to disrupt activities which contribute to widespread death and destruction. When we consider the actual human impact of the tar sands developments and expansion, it's painfully clear whose actions are truly criminal.

The many comments are already a good sign: TAR SANDS ARE AT LAST DENOUNCED!
Hang on guys, the longer you stay there, the more people will know about what is going on in Alberta! And it is a CRIME happening there... We are with you!

how did you get your trucks on site? fuel!

I support Greepeace´s action wholeheartedly. I have read many reports on these tar sands and would ask those who seem to support this method of extraction whether they are aware that local people are dying of cancer due to increase in toxicity of the water supply. This project is get rich quick and to hell with the consequences. In fact it looks like hell, probably smells like it too.

Do you really think the water in the rivers outside any major city are any cleaner? WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! These plants are not the problem...WE ARE! They are only in operation to provide us with our hospitals, schools, houses, heat, gas, absolutely everything we need to survive. All you hipocrites on here, pro greenpeace, shame on you!! You're all probably tucked up in your nice warm houses with your nice manufactured computers (all provided by the oil industry!) HELLO! Can you give all this up? Doubtful. The oil industry is never going anywhere as long as there is demand, and there will always be demand, so suck it up, deal, and find another way. Until you find a non-oil alternative, this is the price we all must pay for our futures. GREENPEACE...You have been defeated!!!! Go home to all your oil manufactured resources and think about how you can clean up YOUR act first. If you're not willing to do without...how can you expect others to do the same?

Wondering, hopeful

Thankful to those who gently and firmly shift the borders of acceptable human behaviour. By doing so, as a human species we may be here for a long time and a good time (redefined of course). For those who are dismayed by the action in the oil sands it is important to not become transfixed on trying to “shoot the messenger!” If you’re focus is there your shortsightedness will be your demise.

Reiterating a lesson from history: The Easter Island civilization became extinct because they carried on business-as-usual. Metaphorically imagined, they probably worried about their jobs and tried to make the argument that jobs and, by extension, their way of life superseded socio/ecological wellbeing.

To remain mentally gridlocked in such rhetorical thinking exemplified in such comments as:

- oil is what makes our vehicles go
- without jobs we have nothing
- those guys are hypocrites because they need oil too
- terrorists are those who disagree with men of the ilk of the protestant ethic... head down,
straight ahead

... can, perhaps, be imagined as ‘backing into the future’.

Buckminster Fuller coined the phrase, “Spaceship Earth”. We’re on it together and we’re not getting off so divisive pejoratives are not in our collective interest. What we do to this earthly dwelling place is ours to suffer or enjoy. One thing is for sure, some damage is irreparable. We’d better get that figured out and quick.

A resource for our conversation is a growing discipline of knowledge that focusses on socio/ecological ethics. For those in jeans and ball caps, or those in pinstriped suites this might be a good place to learn about the world beyond our present instrumentalist mentality and perhaps begin to reinform individual/parochial rhetoric. To read in this area is to experience some epiphanies.

One cannot help but be struck by the base emotional attitude in many of the responses. It can be quite a challenge try and ‘hear’ beyond the thunder in others’ voices. Such a booming cacophony of pronouncements entrenches human behavior not enlightens it.

To "Tom", who encourages activists to "[b]uy electric vehicles instead of protesting oil sands developments", I ask: Did you know that driving an electric vehicle is illegal in Alberta? Greenpeace activists are courageous enough to stand up for what they believe in, while risking their physical safety and future personal freedom - I applaud them.

To any representitive of GreenPeace:
Why did you not accept to meet with Shell to discuss issues before, during, or after your protest?
You message would have held more merit if you behaved more diplomatically.

You are being called terrorists trespassing on private property.
Can't these people see who the REAL terrorists are?
...trespassing on our universal public eco systems?

The only way changes will ever be made is through the persistance of those who care. Well done Greenpeace!

To me, it is alarming to read that in face of a potentially sweepingly harmful and, furthermore, largely unpublicised activity such as the tar sand mining, a violation of the law as minor as trespassing appears to be the prime concern of many who disagree with the "action".

Whether or not we speak about this particular event, and whether or not we find it fruitful or ineffective - is it not the law and the government of which that provides the basis for enterprises like these to run on, and - should those enterprises now be found guilty of unproportional pollution after the protest - would it not have been the law that would have continued to second them if it wouldn't have been for the protest?

How then - minding the scale of the case - can the law be held up as the limit of what one can do?

As a German citizen (who is aware of that saying this may open her up to off-topic attacks), I'd like to bring to attention again that being in compliance with the law during the "Third Reich" did not necessarily put you on the side of good.

This is not to imply similarities between the murderous "Third Reich" and the parties involved here, but to put in perspective the role of the law itself, and whether it is worth of being protected if on the violation side you find a comparably "respectful" manner of doing so, and on the "righteous" side you may discover a massively disregardful treatment of resources common to everybody (air, soil).

Thanks for your attention.

Stand firm GreenPeace. There are always people that is unwilling to forgo their relative convenience for humans lives. Which we can see very clearly from the post here.

Will Shell be putting back the forest and rivers after the stripping? Will the animals come back? Do we need more oil or do we need solar. The oil companies are currently the biggest opponent to clean energy. Cause with better solar technology, they will go out of job.

Hi, I really need this in Spanish! I work in the Environment Department of a construction firm in Peru. We have a very scientific approach to Environmental Impact Assessment. I have read Shell's response in their website, and they try to point out that they have a solid Environmental Plan to mitigate all negative impacts, in part, through compensation policies such as Carbon Capture and Storage. I don't know if I buy it. PLEASE TRANSLATE TO SPANISH, SO I CAN SHARE THIS CASE WITH MY COLLEAGUES. By the way, my HSE Manager has worked Shell in China. He may have something to say. No relation to them now, though.

Am I in ignorance? Yes. Are you in ignorance? Does admitting it count? To manifest my ignorance I frequently use oil. I admit I have ignorance…(but do I ‘really’ in the form of measurable counteraction of it ACT, which Greenpeace does, in the name of the ‘greater good’ of co-existing humanity and shared ecology on this world. It is not a question or should not be a question of whose livelihoods are more important or plus powerful to have demands fulfilled by the direct wealth of oil. The unconscious perhaps conscious ‘dog-eat-dog’ mentality, ‘out of sight out of mind’ attitude, and perpetual present (disconnected from the future) ideology based on oil’s consumption are shameful and partially my wrongdoing. Unfortunately Greenpeace is the scapegoat of our responsible conscience when we as a species should be more understanding of the consequences of our whims. The facts are currently, we are dependent if not artificially addicted to oil and its by-products. We need to plan alternatives which except for our ignorance we could see coming. Ignorance is bliss…but for how long before it becomes knowledge is torment. We need innovation and mass change. Greenpeace is an incremental step.

@Ramzi, the Greenpeace Argentina blog has a Spanish post on this issue: http://www.greenpeace.org.ar/blog/

surely you could point out to world leaders such as obama/brown/g20 people that renewable sources are actually cheaper than extracting and processing the tar sands? seeing as it is money that is driving this extraction of oil from obscure places (tar sands being one example). its going to run out so why continue with a sinking ship? alternative sources are going to have to be used in the future, so why not now? the stern report clearly shows that as time goes on and climate change gets worse, then we are going to have to pay more for renewable sources to be implemented and energy all round.

Plain ad SIMPLE-You boys/men should be ashamed of YOURSELVES! This is terrible. Please clean up CANADA..................

Great Job!!!! I hope that when these men with little character and obviously no self worth finish rolling in their money (oh how great they must feel) they do not wake up to a world that is so polluted one has trouble inhabiting it. I hope life teaches them a lesson. Just remember that what goes around comes around and yes! This will definitely come around in horrible climate changes, which I honestly wish does not affect your family’s health. Think about it; would it not be horrible to have contributed to your loved one’s death. As harsh as this sounds, it is true. Have a happy day and have nothing to regret!

Hahahah ! Very great job !! you can win the battle with the gouvernement ! I love Greenpeace !

Gabb

I give you guys props for havin enuff braves to break in like that. BUT I can tell you, I work on in the truck shop here at shell. People were not impressed, do you know how many people have died working around these trucks? You could have easily caused an accident or even worse killed somebody!!! Or yourself!!!! Not that anyone up here would care but just saying. How did you guys get up here anyways??? Walk? I doubt it...what kind of clothes are you wearing? So many things are linked too petroleum products in everyday life, you will never stop this not ever. This is a communitie, their are families without this place Canada's economy would suffer.

It shows your lack of knowledge of the actual operation when some of those people up top are calling the shovels cranes haahahah. What a bunch of morons!!! And you think you shut everything down?!?!? Your wrong, I work here nothing slowed down hahah. Ore prep was on shutdown you fools!!! Plus that shovel was taking over burden!!!! Bunch of fools!!!!! Hahaha it was funny. Everyone out here needs a good laugh anyways, everybody forgot now. Oh and by the way, I was just told yesterday shell bought 4 more shovels!!! And ten more 797's hahah!!! And they are expanding the truck shop! And are almost done the new truck shop!!!! In order too stop this leave a time capsul for your grandchildrens grandchildren and they might have a chance. The world is at peak oil good luck stopping a giant like shell.

"my eyes are burning" hahahahahah bunch of tree huggin hippies have fun in jail while I wipe my a$$ with 100 dollar bills!!!!!!!

Well done Greenpeace. It's unfortunate that some workers are effected. But if we don't stop climate change, then we might all be out of work in the future. Let's do everything we can to rid the world of our addiction to fossil fuels.

Well, I can see why Greenpeace is taking action...
I hope that everybody will see this.
I am not proud to see answers coming from Shell employee and other community people here: I read xenophobia, disrespecfulness, people ''wiping their ass with 100$ bills'' but still people afraid of change afraid to take action... Is that really the image we want our children to remember? YOU ARE AFRAID that is what you are!!! YOU ARE AFRAId that people like me will take action and support Greenpeace. Well this is just the beginning my friends. Tell me that what you see everyday is clean and good for you, for the community. Would you let your children play here in Tar sands??? No I bet you would not. but you prefer to shut your eyes with 100$ bills and die of cancer and leucemia. Good for you and good for Earth. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!!!

To the activists: Don't let go, you are the people with the good hearts here. You take care of our Earth. Don't listen to those who are trap in their own believe, trap in their community, trap in their thoughts by SHELL and more precisely by money. Money is not the answer, energy is available elsewhere. We need a change , a revolution of thoughts.